The 27 Club

0:01 Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to hook up my headphones. Are Quick. Maybe that's why I'm just doing that thing. Problems, I mean, yeah, it's sounds pretty hard hooking up headphones. What do you do? Plug them in? No, they're bleaching it. I hate this song. You knowice. How I how? I didn't, I swear. We'll see how long that lasts. That's what she said. That's pretty good. That's a going m that's a good one. Yeah, you know, all the other podcasts them on. They figured it out before they have their guests on.

0:51 But you know, I got it thanks to you. Hear me now and you're booming headphones. Shut up, man, yes, I know that's and you're yeah, yeah, okay, shut up, UND okay, I'll go. I'll go. I'll go tell myself now that I asked you that. Where are you going to dinner? Ah, here, my dad's making steaks, grill and a bunch of stuff. You know, big rakie cooks crazy. But my aunts coming over, so Um, that's what I meant by we just have dinner. That's nice, though. That's the best kinds of dinners. I went to the movies with those same people, my parents and my aunt Wednesday and we saw where the crow dads saying. Which one is that? I don't know. It's a book that got turned into a movie and it's a true story, I guess, and it's a book all right.

1:47 That's probably why I haven't heard of it. Yeah, my mom read the book and it's apparently it's a good review movie. I mean it was a good movie, but you know, I just went with them just to do I haven't been to the movie since pre covid. I just wanted to go and to literally just to go, just to go outside of the House and go to the movies because I haven't so long. And it was good. It was fun, felt good. What I felt good? I felt like all right, out of the house, had something to do. Every time I go, though, I get really like okay, where where the exits in case there's a shooting? Grow off. He's like definitely afraid of the movie theaters right, Oh, of that movie there. Oh, they're shooting. Okay, Bro where are you now? Oh, I'm at the airport. You think it's different? I mean that airport is way different, the amount of security that's there. Yeah, and think about more people die at the airport dude, what where do you get your stats from? Reality Are you're telling me more people have been gunned down in a movie? The yes itself proves you wrong. Was that an airport? Where do they take off from? Yes, it happened. No, it happened in the sky.

3:04 It did not happen in the airport where the planes take off from. That doesn't count. Where did it happen? Where did it happens in the airport? I can say that about anything. I can say that about anything. Then, Oh, I guess, when I go to the airport. And, by the way, curists aside. In the airport people unload. Remember the Guy Unloaded at Lauderdale the other year, like two years ago? He killed more people than all right, guess what you just said. You just uh, you just lit the fire. I'M gonna look up all the statistics over the past forty years and I'll show you how you're wrong. And it doesn't count if it happens in the air but you know what, I'll count it. Yeah, it does. Okay, if you count it, because it's not a shooting. It's not a shooting meaning traveling. I'm saying traveling, I'm saying shootings. If you're at the Air I'm not talking about the airport. I'm talking about shootings, and so is your uncle. So that doesn't count. Whatever doesn't count to this. Your brother in law doesn't count for this conversation because we were talking about shooting. No, first of all, you don't know what. He is afraid of. It why?

4:11 You told me just now. He's afraid of danger. So part of the danger, this conversation doesn't make any sense. Yeah, that's luck, because if you pay attention as well, if you have danger up here, rattlesnake, but you know, see, I don't care about that. I'm like, that's not a danger ready. And then, oh so those aren't dangers. They are so to you. It's all relative. Car Crash is not a danger. If you're in a car crash, you're in danger. Yeah, because I'm putting myself in that situation, car crash, but it doesn't matter if you put yourself in a situation or not. You're in a car. Do you put yourself in the car? You're in danger of a car crash. All those fall under danger. Is My point. I'm not stepping in a rattlesnake pit, one of those, one of those is Um.

4:55 Well, you live in Texas, so you have so it's not a it's not a thing to me. That's what I'm saying. But the it is all the all those fall under danger. I could give you a thousand that don't relate to you. When a thousand that late to you. But so let's go. Shootings are under it has to be an apple apple situation. Go ahead. My brother in law is afraid of just danger, right, so the more broad thing. But under that he's afraid of situational danger. So he won't. He's like, Oh, I'm afraid to go to the air the movie theater because what if somebody shoots somebody? Which fucking the last time? I mean, when's the last movie shooting, movie theater shooting?

5:40 Last year? I really don't know, because it wasn't that fucking significant, to be honest. You know, are you going to tell me that going to different countries, flying, being in the airport, which consists of eighteen different types of dangers? Shootings, terrorism, Third World countries? You're talking about the locations of where those airports are going, not the actual airport, Dude. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying it's a rational for him to and you, for anybody, to worry about movie shooting movies. That's what sucks, is traveling and putting himself in so much other danger that you need to be in, because you're always in danger every day. So go to the movies, go, do, go to the movies. All I said was it's something that I think about. My Good God, taking up thought in your head that you don't need to be thinking about, Richard. So now what do you want to talk about? The seven club? About a guy that just does? If you're going to be a Dick, then I don't want to talk about it, and then I want to talk about whatever you want to talk about. WHAT'S UP, everybody? This is Bellamars and I'm here with another episode of Big Time fresh. I have and favorite and kind of future co host, Ricky vorious. What's up, man, Hey, hey, what's happening? So we've been in a heated conversation already,

7:11 because that's just how we do things. We start off all pistol off. That's we're bust these people. You were like that, and and I love it, I know, but I know you do, because you it's like, Oh, you think that's super important to you. Well, guess what, I think it's stid. I know it's so, alright. So anyways, anyways, I know, I know you can, but so what I what we talked about to be the topic of the day, which I think it's very important and it is music industry related. It has to do with the early deaths of a lot of the musicians that are legendary. Um, and this all stems from, you know, Taylor Hawkins is probably the late this uh musician that has been kind of still very famous and I would stay still in his crime and you know, they were still touring and everything.

8:11 He's the drummer of food fighters and UM. So he passed away, I think, back in May. I'll double check on that, but Um, food fighters fighters back in May. Okay, okay, UH, they're having a tribute concert. They're gonna have to. So I know I've been talking about Queen, but the drummer of Queen was a huge influence. So that and Queen's big stage. They're known for playing Wimbley Stadium In uh, in the UK, or in I think it was. Okay. So that's where their first concert is going to be. The tribute concert number one is going to be September three over there at Wimbley stadium, and then and then the tribute concert number two is going to be on Tuesday September l a at the Kia Forum, Forum, the Kia Forum, that is. And so it is being sponsored by the Kia for I hate it when they just renamed based on sponsors. I feel like it's such a such a cop or, you know, it makes everything, I don't know, sponsors are awesome, but also just makes it kind of sponsors. But so they are. This concert is being sponsored by or supported by, the problem with sponsors. Yeah,

9:43 actually, let me just take that back and just say, oh my gosh, sponsors runs world and we wouldn't be anywhere without him, and that's the truth. So, uh, so, Tuesday September l a at the KIA forum, they's going to be travis spark has been brought on board. I think he's been there for a while. Um, Miley Cyrus, she has more of a new kind of rock style, which I really love. Joan jet, so I assume they're probably going to do something together. Brian May, part of Queen Atlantis, Morisett Legend, Pink Mark Ronson, awesome producer Jeane Simmons, Legend, Nicki six, Roger Taylor, Queen, Um van Halen, okay, Lars bullrit that's a metallica. So it's gonna be Pretty Dope, UM, pretty amazing. And then about half of those are are playing at the Whimbley stadium on September three. But they have some other ones, uh, special appearance by Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock at the London one.

10:50 So a pretty of dope. Oh, Kesha interesting. So anyway, you know, with with all the different tacks to drugs, it's just it's a harder um demon to have to fight for, especially for the musicians to end up, you know, getting fame in their early twenties. And so this is too. This one episode is to pay tribute to Taylor Hawkins and the drummer of food fighters. And then we're going to take a look back. Oh, we're recent decades about Um, the legend or the urban legend of what is commonly known as the twenty seven club, famous musicians and prominent musicians of the time or dying at seven, usually from drug overdoses or mysterious circumstances. Right, you got it. Uh. So you know more than anything. It's been this Um, this urban legend that it's. It's so well known that a lot of a lot of artists either have named songs or have very specific lyrics or even albums about the seven club and uh, not wanting to join it or them the impact it's had on the music world,

12:22 or you know, things like that. So Um, so we're gonna dig into a couple of the artists. I have a list here. It coincides with another article I'M gonna post around the same time on my blog with the same name. Big Time fresh. And I see rookie, how's a guitar out? Are you gonna play something? Yeah, I'll play something for the people at the end. You know a yeah, let's here's about delgate? You're here? Anything that's better? Yeah, that's my K R I P, breast and power king. Yeah, how about that? That I can't hear. Well, there it is. M Hm, what everyone plays that?

13:26 You gotta play Master of puppets right and get it. Yeah, Dang it, it's not working. It's not I can't hear the sound. Really. Yeah, that's weird. Listen to the true tasks of the guitar players. If you can downpick our master of puppets, and I can you know where you would have seen a majestic performance of master of puppets and seasons four of mfing stranger things. So, if anything, I'M gonna send you that clip because it's worth it. Don't give me that face, it's worth it.

14:07 Um, I was for some reason they brought that up with stranger things. What happened with master puppets and stranger things? Spoiler alert. They the person who they're trying to summon all these monsters and so they play it really loud in the upside down. Um, I have to send you the clip, but it's what every want to talk about. So so METALLICA is a big fan of stranger things, and so they signed there like so pumped because it's almost the whole song and it's like a big, you know, a big part of the episode. So metallica was all about it. And then you know some of the clips that they ended up doing maybe a couple of months after is, Um, they played master puppets together. It's pretty dope.

14:52 Totally makes sense though. Well, yeah, I mean the the character that was the character that they introduced a season has has that that super dope vibe because it's like night four or five or six, something like that. So, Um, he has that like long hair with the kind of like a mullet, but not really, because it's curly and Um, kind of like Van Halen. Uh, actually like all the bands and the the hair bands. Yeah, Um, he's like the definition of a kids who was in you know, into that kind of music back then. I think my dad was kind of like that, had that crazy hair. Um, so it was very nostalgic, as the whole show is. But yeah, I'll send it to you. It's worth it's worth the watch. It's only two minutes. You can handle it. To Business Christ Um, I'd love to see it. I shouldn't know what they were talking because I looked it up for some reason. Yeah, let's play. Let me play it for you right now, and then it'll be Um, they can hear it the Lance.

16:00 I laughed because I don't have any fans yet. Uh, where's master puppets? There it is. Okay, Oh, Oh, you got it, share sound. Here we go. Three. Yeah, there you go. Okay, all rights. From now it's try. Let's go bust the sunlight now. Oh my God, I hate this. Look, I hate my guys. Now I don't watch out. By the way, second,

17:44 your head. M Yay, that was sick. Yeah, it's I'm glad. Yeah, I knew you would like it. I'm glad you saw it. Come on, I was sick. Now I know where I saw that, like where I saw the connection from. It was a tiktok video of the old father playing master of puppets riff. One of the comments was, oh, he must be a stranger things fan I see, and I had no idea what that man and now, yeah, Um, that just playing it and then the lightning strikes, the red lightning strikes, is the coolest thing. Yeah, it's it's. Yeah, I'm so glad they like didn't they used the actual entire or, you know, it's the majority of the song. They didn't step out and just use the perfect yeah, perfect environment and perfect song. I'm tiring. They picked the perfect song for to summon demons. Will tell you all. Yeah, they're good. They're good with the music, with the soundtrack they played. I can hear you, by the way, now really yeah, and now I can't. So let's run.

19:15 Let's run through this list and then, uh, because it's important, I want to talk about how how crazy these drugs are, because it's actually like it's mostly Frenchonell. Alright, so s club. Let's start. Okay, check, check this out. Seven club. It goes back decades because Kurt Cobain, uh, obviously legend, uh, Singer and Guitar Player of Nirvana. Jim Morrison, he was the vocalist of the doors, Jimmy Hendricks, Guitar Player, Janas Choplin, s, you're around the same era.

20:02 Amy Winehouse, singer Brian Jones was one of the guitars of the rolling stones, Um, and there's actually a giant list, but considering those are the have been a handful of the legends that have even been called legends during their lives and then afterlife. I mean that's that's the seven club. So he deduced world, referenced the Club on Hisen Song Legends, where he says what's The twenty seven club? We eight making it past twenty one. The song is dedicated to his friend, I don't want to say this, x x x ten, but also during that email wrap phase back in around then.

20:52 So he was murdered and uh, we'll keep around, still around that the era of the email rap. He died from an overdose at twenty one and then juice world died at one, thrown accidental over. So those three were like and kind of knew about the twenty seven club and I don't know if that had um. It might have. Who Knew? Who knows, but it's just crazy that they, you know, talked about it, knew about it. We're afraid of doing it. Juice World said I'm not going to make it past twenty one and he died. Had One part of these people that died seven started drugs at one and seven, because of they money and ship allowed him to get that into it, that they had, they died.

21:48 But now you get, like I said, one kill can be the end of you because of a fent and all. So that's why now people die at it's one club now because it's just up. Yeah, is literally playing Russian Roulette with five out of six bullets in the chamber. Yeah, that's good. That's a good and it's I mean, and then nobody knows except for the drug dealer, which is how dealers so what I what I think is crazy. And if I were Mac Miller, which, rest in peace, for real he was, I consider him to be Um, one of those legends that is going to go down in history is one of the best rappers of all time. Um. But he was kind of the same thing and I'm surprised at this same age that some rappers don't have like one one dealer that they know and trust, you know, with their lives.

22:45 And in this case very much should have been the case. Um, because he got a trim drug dealers. He got I forget, but guess what? Now everything fucking look, let me tell you something, and I preached this and it goes this proves my point is, yeah, heroin doesn't is not the problem. Fat Nol is not the problem. The problem is definitely not pills. The problem is the legislation that happened, because now everyone has to get it off the street, because before you would have a one person, right, and then they doctor shop and get your seven thousand pills, ten thousand pills a week, and you could, the worst of addicts could survive off that and they were real pills because they're from doctors. Now you just go city to city get what you need because of the insane crackdown that has happened with opiates and even to the point where legitimate pro pain patients aren't their pains not being controlled because of addicts, you know who funked up the system, and because of everyone so has to prescribe, I guess rightly so.

24:03 But it's like that's the problem, it's you know, if you want to do I mean, and there's no way to get fenting all off the street. I'm obviously fenting all the problem because that's what kills people, but there's no way to get that off the street because there's too much money in it. So do you think? Do you think it has? It's something like, uh, you know, if it would have been solved, or you know, at least I think, on the radar back then. You know, when it started to become a problem, whatever years ago, let's say, when I started to become an epidemic. I think, and I'm not a I'm not a professional or I don't even know what I'm talking about really, but if that was something that we're that was taken care of or brought to everyone's attention back then, then there wouldn't have been this gap of Um, no more pills, have to find something else. Who Create the man? I think, I think it would have went down the same it went down because, at the end of the day, nobody cares about junkies.

25:07 Right, at least they didn't then. Now they do, because it started killing White America, right, America. They never gave a funk before because it never affected them, you know, a politicians son. Now it affects the politicians son, because the politician because his son died. You know. But not getting too away from it, is no, because, and I know, and I say no because of this, because, Um, Um, God damn. And I had the exact thing I was gonna say. Okay, when I was in Philadelphia, right, m HM, repeat the question again. It was. It was what if we knew at earlier, didn't think we could have mitigated the process or at least suppressed it a little bit more, you know. But and then here, how about this?

25:59 And Oh, here's here. It is because no, because it's not about nobody cares about the jock. You. Nobody cares about this, nobody cares about that. What they care about is money, right, the drug dealers, the politicians do, everybody does, the world does, and that's a sad fact. But the block that I went to in Philadelphia, and you know what a block is. It's a section section of street that intersects right. So you go to the block and that's where they were. I mean Philadelphia, it's fucking bad Um. You're dodging bullets to get down there. But each block was controlled by a different gang, right, and they and therefore different types of heroin, and the heroin was laced with fentanol even back then, and you would you would find, you would look for the fentane because you wanted to fund if you heard about somebody, you didn't know this. If you heard about that, ask anyone if you heard that somebody died off a bag. And they're all stamped with hey, their own stamp, Nike Stamp, a minion stamp. However, they want to brand them.

27:07 So you know you're getting it from the same supplier of the quality. So you know what it is. Oh, the minions are killing people. Oh, you go straight down to the block that sells minions and you get them because you and that. I believe you. Yeah, no, that's it's the sickness of it, because you know that's the strongest ship out there now, and that's it's really you have no morals, no nothing. You don't care about nothing. But here's what I say is I say no because the money and the block that I went to, and I went to a bunch of them, but Um, the main block that I went to, I remember a block is just a guy at the intersection on a corner, a guy, one person on a corner. My Friends Dad works for the D A, or did at the time, up there, right. Are you okay to talk about this though, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. He was trying to like bust that area whatever, but he's like, he's like he told his son, you can't do it.

28:11 We just busted that block that they were taught that I went to and come to find out they were doing surveillance for years and years, but that block alone was making in cash one million dollars a week. So how do you stop something like that? You don't see. I didn't. I didn't know he would consider the fact that it would be something that people would go for the fent milent to know. Yeah, wow, that's so crazy. So that's I mean that's supply demand. Even so, that's not usually off of it. Are People that they aren't, they're tall, they're just came out of Rehab and their tolerances are low and they think they could do the same mouth they used to be able to do. Or it's people that are UN experienced in it all together and just want to take a pill on the weekends to have a throw and and unfortunately get a bad dose that was pressed by a drug dealer. Or it's a hardcore attics sometimes that you know had at what is it's cheaper to make. That's why the drug dealers use it.

29:22 And it's just they make it in China in a lab and it gets shipped over here in the black market and people buy it off the black market and they mix it and with heroin and it's super cheap. It's pennies. It's half of pennies on the dollar, cheaper than heroin is. So they're increasing their profit margin while the people are getting higher. So obviously that's a win win and another reason why they can't stop it. MINUS, who the fucking stop a million dollars a week in cash, because just if you do, the other person is going to come up and get it right. I mean, yeah, nobody's gonna let that go. So and that's just one block and there's four thousand blocks within a mile. You know. So think about that and so and then the other thing is is very organized the system.

30:11 And the other thing, and I would say the last thing is this, is there's always, like you said, demand for the product, because if you stop selling people who going to the most horrible withdrawals, and that's why people are criminals and rob and steel and uh so, there's always gonna be demand for it, you know, and that's the unfortunate part. So people will find it somewhere else. So then it's because of, let's guessing, in Mac Miller's case, they were maybe out of what he was looking for, so they thought, oh, this is fine, I got it from this other guy, so I'm just gonna sell it to Mac Miller. And then it actually had fentanel and and he wasn't aware. Usually drugs dealers don't do their don't do drugs, so they don't know if it has some.

31:00 and Uh so, yeah, it looks exactly like a, you know, a perk thirty, which is what I'm sure he was buying. And Yeah, yeah, the oxycurteous, which I've been prescribed for two years from my back, which is insane because you're not supposed to prescribe more than three days to a cancer patient. That's how like serious drug is Um but you know, I mean each script. I was doing like the math and I had on my scripts, I said each script, if I didn't take any of my medications when I was getting those prescribed to me, each script was three thousand dollars on the street. Should have just sold them. But that's some money right there. Yeah, and it would have been the real ship, not to fake ship. But anyways, no, so to to say so no, it wouldn't have been stopped. No, it can't be stopped.

31:55 They have the war on drugs for how long now? And why do you think? Everyone says it's a joke? Because it's money. And I guess what? The government's in on the on it. And Yeah, I mean I feel like that's why this is a scratch. But I feel like that's why weed has never been legal, because it could have happened back in the seventies, I honestly think the problem wouldn't be as that's not I remember I was caught up bad in it in Philadelphia and I remember my friend came over and smoked the bowl with me and I literally was, you know, withdraw and bad and, like I said, waiting on a call, and when you're waiting on that call there's nothing worse. But I smoked a bowl and I'm like no, why am I doing this? I said this is insanity. The whole idea of me, you know, shoving up a needle in my veins like and and going down there every day. I said, this is it. Put things in perspective, is what I'm trying to say.

32:50 Yeah, and so, yeah, I agree with you a hundred percent. Is that it helps in so many different ways, and pharmaceutical industry like yet so much. It would move people so much money that it would be ridiculous. But it would also make people a lot of money, because what do you think would replace the pharmaceutical industry? But people don't want to work that hard anymore to make that transition because the sackler has already got made. Why the why do they want to switch business model now? Yeah, I mean it would bring in billions of Dina hats for other states, billions of dollars of tax, tax money, starting from scrap. It's like they didn't have to move anything around. That's like billions of dollars for some people want it all along and are going to do it? Not? I mean, well, alcohol is worse. We all know that. So you know what?

33:45 What we makes you, Um, like aggressive as much as alcohol does. Right, none. So I do don'tate to, uh, the marijuana policy project, because I think it's absolutely insane that a check every month. You donate to them instead because you know you're it's actually going to good use. Yeah, yeah, and I'm just I'M A, you know, consumer. So Richard Boro, that's Vias and Victor Oh are. I think I do like twenty a month. But then I get to see it in action because on Congress out good you can see who's who has who's sitting on those committees. What are they talking about? How often they're meeting? And it's working. I mean they're meeting, you know. And then I know, I just picked up this. It's so much money. They're so dumb.

34:38 Is the ship that killed Ben Ladden? Is that? That's what they killed Ben Ladden with. So so we don't have to we'll do a little bit more of this, but because I feel like it's just it's it's a shaved like a bottom line, that shape five, six years off maybe the twenty one club because of fetanel and there's crazy drug now and even the UH, what's it called? The opposite of devilish, like like innocent, the most innocent of people can, you know, try killing a weekend and die.

35:19 Unfortunately, that's got to stop. How do you stop it? You can't too much money. It's just it's I mean even I used to get the demand needs to stop. Yeah, yeah, and I don't know how to stop that other than people don't think. People kill them are killing themselves off, and it's either there's literally one of three ways that ends up jail, institutions or death, and that's never changed. Yeah, I feel like people are getting more smart now. So hopefully, like once, the people you know kind of smart enough that don't this won't be an epidemic anymore. Yeah, I've really I think he would help a lot. So here's okay, so back to Mac Miller. He was twenty six and this is what his his lyrics were. Um Ah, he goes. Uh, don't laugh, I'm not laughing. I'm laughing at laugh. I laughed at when I'm uncomfortable with the topic. Okay, well, yes, of course, otherwise we wouldn't be friends. All Right, uh, Mac Miller's song called brand name.

36:32 He goes to everyone who sells me drugs. Don't mix it with that bullshit. I'm hoping not to join the club. He did from fentanel with don't mix it with that bullshit. That's almost like he was that. It's like he was asking, not asking for but foreshadow, and that kind of plays into the clove, I think, because it's like, you know, they had a scary like overtone. If this is going to happen, and I know it, it does happen. You know, you want to go down this rabbit hole right now. Do you think it was really drugs or do you think it was the government? Okay, I don't know if I want to go this. Okay, I don't. I don't need that, but okay, do have something to to add. That was actually intelligent.

37:20 Kind of here might be a fun fact for the folks at home. What who was the first person to join the seven club to kick it off? You know, it was like Morrison, or was it? UH, yeah, it was. I would say, uh, it goes back to the hundred. It's crazy, but yeah, noticed that. No, until yeah, you're right now. Beethoven, Diet who in the eight. Okay, first F Ward, and then let me tell you. Okay, just tell me. Well, up, Oh ye, went back to seventeen. Really, who is that? Hold on, I don't know. I remember looking it up, but that's about it. Okay, UM, come on.

38:21 Man Back after his twelfth sympathy symphony died. Okay, his name is Alexander Levy. Date of birth or date of death? January sevente that's, my friends, not the seventieth part Um. And back then it was unknown. And then neural, well, I can't even think. EXCEPSIS, which is what like a infection? It's it's what I added. It's infection of your of your nervous system. It's crazy like these there. This is the sign of the Times. But then it was complication. was from high blood pressure, traffic collision drug over those heart attack, carver the Max side, poisoning, sleeping pill over those drowning in a pool. Jump Starts Association. Okay, so that was like maybe fifteen and then it started picking up, or started afore guy. Yeah, after like the like they were all suicide.

39:24 Probably got back to himself. You know, that's sad. Uh, Jimmy Hendricks as assitiation but because he like overdose and like d seven. Yeah, it says a fixed asphixiation, but I think it was because he was high on a heroin and then like threw up in the sleep and choked on it. Um, Jim Morrison, heart failure, Le Leslie Harvey. What did Andrews Fall Asleep and choked on it? It says a asfixiation. Let me see me girls. Yeah, semple, fall asleep and show. Okay, maybe get that. And fucking editing. Stop with the effort, all right, and then uh makes you pay attention. And then it goes suicide, plane crash, Carbon Manaxi poisoned again. Car Crash, car crash, murder, suicide, you say, yeah, with murder and then suicide. Oh No, sorry, now I'm going through, just going to the list that somebody jump. Yeah, someone dropped or jumped from the balcony. Murdered, drug overdose, Par Cross, drowning, bank crash, cancer, murdered,

40:55 suicide by gunshot, CRIP cooking Overdo Huh. What's The craziest one? I think the electrocution, because it was because it was because he was on stage and the like the microphone or something. That was it was it was it was older, but it was Um Leslie Harvey. Let's see, Suwic side, murder, sub sub correct chory hemorrhage. Okay, so that's musicians. M Oh Marilyn Monroe and James Dean also died at that's that's what I was gonna say too. It's like that's so we're just talking musicians. They imagine all the other things. Yeah, so, so Mac Millie got at twenty six. And then Avici. AVIC, yeah, yeah, Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, our Chris friend. Uh What? Adam?

42:05 Oh, and then Dj am. No, I don't think about okay, yeah, I don't. He wasn't. He wasn't twenty seven. And No, unless they completely missed it, but I don't think they. was that the Travis Barker's friend? Yeah, he was thirt Dj am was thirty six. So Travis Barker almost died. Man, I'm like just making sack. And then, uh, recently they've been like Taylor Hawkins was fifty, prince was fifty seven. He died of fentanyl, yes, overdose. Yeah, fifty seven. Um, fencinel, Little Pie, was sentinel. PROPO fall took out Michael Jackson. Um Easy and uh, pretty murcury AIDS.

43:01 Oh, this is interesting. So Whitney Houston. Um, she had a heart condition and she did cocaine. So that's something. Yeah, manageable, terrible. She she did not die of the they said drowning, because she was because she was in a hot top. Apparently she passed out and the hot top actually cooked her alive. Yeah, that's what I heard from the I would really happened. Dot toopsy, you know show. Yeah, that's kind of yeah. Yeah, well, I was like her heart was already had problems. Cocaine probably elevated all of that and then she just jumped in that jump on that feet. That's why I'm black when I'm uncomfortable with the topic. Well, no, it's not funny, but it is funny that like Hey, I got I got a heart prob let's do a bunch of coke. So, so, Taylor Hawkins, he had a he had an enlarged heart. It was twice the size of of a regular heart when he passed away from heroin. Um, that's what it says. I skeptical.

44:15 I didn't have a cause of death yet. Um, let's see, you're probably right. And then it's like yeah, he said they found that he had a cardio cardiovascular collapsed after being or something. Yeah, so they yeah, and because said he was on ten different things. Yet so I could see how that's like impossible to really kneel it down, because it's like he had the heart thing and then he had all the different drugs. Sound even the strongest the hearts can't handle, you know. Yeah, but but all right. I feel like like Ober, though, is the new like you know how rocks are just be cool for getting drunk and doing drugs. I feel like it's the opposite now, like Pete, sober is the new cool, and I don't think that's just a woke movement either. I think people are actually like want to feel good, you know, figure and then and you know, because everybody can watch their every move now. So and it's not fun, like it's not a good time, like it's it's people look up to these rock stars that, Oh, Lane Staley, oh you know who's WHO's Kirtle? Mean? Oh Yeah, oh, they got all their creativity from heroin. They're so good because they're heroin. No, Bro, not at sucking all. They wish nothing but to kick that. And it's

45:47 the sad fact of it. Well, you're right. It's it's definitely like, oh my gosh, he's on here and so he needs to get help. Let's let's try to get him help, versus, Oh man, what a cool rocks are. And like the eighties especially, like I'm looking at whatever Van Halen on my wall and I'm sure like, Oh, they missed, you know, damage or they wrecked hotel rooms when they're on tour. Now it's like that's the dumbest thing, like you have to pay for that, you know, and now you have bad press and now you can't work at certain venues because of this. Is Not back then it was it was cool to throw, you know, but now it's just like they'll be blacklisted from venues, that flat screens will just go like that, like five pounds a leaf. Yeah, but anyway, this is a good conversation. I think it's important. I think, uh, it's gonna Bring, I mean our conversation, everybody to see the change in the trend of like, okay, yeah, it's not smart to make these dumb decisions that if you look back, you know history, you learn, you can learn from history.

46:53 So if you're going to look back on the twenties, seven club. Now it's becoming and you can see it become Tony one club and so discontinues. It's going to be the seventeen club and last time I checked, the only seventeen club is Mickey Mouse Club. So let's just let's all get sober in a happy life. Yeah, I mean, okay, I think it's great that there's more mental health. Uh, acceptance a thing and you need to actually take care of yourself, like keep my dad's a boomers, so you know, mental health is like grow up and, you know, get over it. But now it's it's being recognized as a huge contributor to every part of anybody's life. So, Um, you know. So I think it's great that that's happening. I think it's great that people can look back and see how their lives turned out, like you were just saying, how it started, what happened, how it turned out, and it's kind of like, okay, I don't want to do that. Um, even even the fence and all people like Mac Miller'd be like, Oh my God, I'm gonna be careful when I buy oxys. You're right, it's not going to stop people, but maybe it'll be a second thought, you know, which is often times, Um, good enough, but we'll be hey, it's not worth it and they won't buy them, you know, because it's really not. If you're playing, if you're not in pain, don't do fucking pain killer. I mean, it seems simple to say, but it's just sparting up. So that's a good thing. Yeah, well, I'm glad.

48:28 I'm glad you were able to take it upon yourself and get better. And I remember it was I was. I was very upset, Um, not like mad upset, I was just it made me very sad and worried about you. But look at you now, Kiddo. Oh, yeah, I'm killing it. Yeah, you're killing it, brutal thing. Yeah, it's real and it's you know. So I'm glad you're better. Let's UH once again. Let me get the Taylor Hawkins Um, here we go. Wait, sir, uh, where it is? Okay, so the Taylor Hawkins Tribute concert kind of put on by food fighters, the recording academies.

49:17 So, like the Grammys, CBS MTV, you can watch it live on paramount plus on the day and then a couple of days later you can watch it on MTV or Pluto. TV and it's gonna be it's gonna be special, it's gonna be a good one, whereas the other one I just saw it's gonna be CBS. CBS will broadcast an hour long rendering of the tribute concert on Saturday September three, from nine to ten PM Eastern. I don't know what that means necessary. Oh No, England is his headed like six or something hours. So I'm looks like they're gonna like cut it down. I guess that's what it means our long rendering. I don't know, but anyway, uh, we're gonna put I'm gonna put some information about, you know, how to get help and and uh, in the description, probably of the of the episode. And, Um, you know, case important we have. We have Ricky Vorius, who who is a great example of how how you can get get out of it. So Um, but anyway, everything's good to go. All Right, see you. Thanks for listening.

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